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- It's all about their wants and not at all about me.
- They haven't read the advice page on my web site. or a single one of my blog articles (2 good places to start would be So you want to get into voiceovers? and Thinking about starting a voiceover career?).
- I'm not sure why they think I am the right person to help them.
- I don't know why they think I should want to help them.
- The person has no clue about what is involved in working as a voice talent.
- They want me to tell them everything I know about working in voiceover as quickly as possible.
- They expect me to invest my time in furthering their career, with my only form of compensation being my joy in helping them succeed.
- They want me to introduce or refer them to my contacts and launch their successful career, similar to how a debutante is presented to society.
- They want validation that they are doing the right thing, and all their dreams really will come true.
- If you want to learn a specific subject, find a teacher.
- If you want to hone specific skills or reach an exact goal, hire a coach.
- If you want to get smarter and better over your career, find someone who cares about you enough to be a mentor [my emphasis].
The people I've chosen to mentor have each had their own story.Some have been people with whom I had an established friendship, then (when I saw them struggling and thought I might be able to help) I've offered that help. For a few others, they've approached me with a specific question and after answering that question and after some further conversation, I've chosen to continue the relationship in a mentoring capacity for a season.Maybe the best way to describe the process for me is that right about the time someone reaches the point that they don't need my help as much, someone else will come along who does. I have no formally established pattern and don't plan to make one.In the 25+ years that I've been doing voiceovers professionally, I've been offered help more times than I can count. I feel a strong sense of obligation to provide help to others I encounter along the way, who need it.However, it does very little good to approach me and ask me to be a mentor because I turn down most of the people who ask.
Steven K. Scott includes a terrific chapter about recruiting mentors in his book Simple Steps to Impossible Dreams: The 15 Power Secrets of the World's Most Successful People. He gives a detailed, 10-step strategy for identifying and recruiting mentors. The strategy requires that you thoroughly research the potential mentors and be able to pinpoint qualities that you admire. When you approach the person, you will want to be able to explain how you would like to make their admired qualities a part of your life.
She recruited him by reading his books and viewing his tapes...Reading Gary's books and viewing his tapes was in some ways even better than meeting with him because she could do them at her own pace, taking as much time as she wanted.
With that in mind, I realize I need and want to be an active audiobook listener. I think the last one I heard was in Hawaii last year. [I immediately downloaded a book from the library and] will be listening to the phrasing and pauses as much or more than the accent.I will listen to an audiobook every day...It's another good way to prepare for the audiobook success and constant work that is coming to me.
Since that day in May 2011, I have listened to audiobooks while I walk my dog or swim. I have heard 14 audiobooks and substantial parts of several more. Not only have I been studying and learning from the technical aspects of each narrator and production, but the avid reader in me is thrilled to be even more immersed in books!

She goes on to offer 8 ways to increase your productivity. While her tips are aimed at writers, voice talent can extrapolate from them and apply the ideas to our businesses.
In 1968 Decca Records asked me if I was interested in doing an album. I hesitated, I wasn't a singer -- but then it was pointed out to me that the first note in the musical scale is do...What I decided to was find a selection of beautiful writing and use that as a lead-in to a song that complemented it...Apparently it was a bit obtuse...for most people....I'd taken a creative risk. I'd tried to do something unique, something very different. And I'd learned very early in my acting career that you can't improve without taking risks...Decades later, my debut album "The Transformed Man" would lead directly to one of the most successful commercial ventures of my career -- and another album!...It turned out that the copywriter on the [Priceline] account, Ernest Lupinacci, was a big fan of my 1968 album "The Transformed Man".I am absolutely fascinated as I look over my shoulder at my past at how the simplest decisions I've made have had the most complex reactions. A career is a series of connected events. So when I turned down an offer, I wasn't simply rejecting a job and paycheck, I was completely eliminating the possibility that it might lead to something else. When you turn down an opportunity to work, you're also turning down an experience, maybe even an adventure, and a universe of possibilities.
- I recommend that you listen to his audiobook rather than read the book. Hearing him tell his story in his often-imitated but imcomparable style is a true pleasure!
- That fabulous gig as Priceline's spokesperson is about to end, but it lasted for 14 YEARS! Think how much money he made just from that one enterprise! And he never would have had it if he hadn't taken a risk.
I am sooo glad to see you make the point that we shouldn't spend time worrying about any voiceover career outside of our own!I haven't commented on anything to do with this story until now. I am amazed at the time and energy that some voice talent have used this week in all the blog posts, forum comments, social media updates, etc. that they have devoted to this one topic.The reaction in the v-o community has become like the people who sit around and endlessly discuss any TV contest reality show, particularly American Idol.I choose to put my spare time and energy into the pursuit of my own goals and dreams rather than waste it thinking and talking about those of someone else.
Good grief.Enough railing about the business. It is what it is.Concentrate on what you can actually do something about.Your delivery.Too many reads just don't hit the mark. Make sure what you are turning in will indeed stop people in their tracks.

- You're connected on LinkedIn or other sites
- They gave you their business card
- You have exchanged e-mail messages
- All of the above
- None of the above -- they need permission
- I removed from my database a number of voiceover clients that I've dropped and prospects with whom I hadn't established a relationship. In some cases, I had been out of touch with a person for 2-3 years, so I removed their names, too.
- I uploaded my list of solid contacts from my stand-alone database.
- I couldn't add a name to my iContact mailing until the person confirms I have their permission, so I decided to let my contacts confirm their mailing addresses could be added to the newsletter list before sending them the newsletter.
- iContact made me initial that I could contact the person even when I was sending the pre-addition confirmation letter! That's a Catch-22 if ever there was one!
is more important than an idea that exists only as an idea.

I've been asked to record a 200 page audiobook. I'm not in a union or guild. I do have some voiceover experience. What do you recommend I charge?
While the question you asked seems simple, the answer requires more explanation, as found in this blog post and the one from Paul Strikwerda linked within it.As basic info, you need to know the WORD count, not the page count, of the book you would narrate. You can figure out the finished run-time based on the word count. For instance, Audible uses an average rate of speed of 155 words a minute, or 9300 words per finished hour.Paul's article shows you a formula to calculate finished time. My article shows you how to calculate the real time required for editing to produce the book. As Paul points out in his comment to my article, you also need to add time for preliminary research.You'll have to consider all of these factors about the time commitment along with your experience, relationship with the client, training, and studio equipment to determine a rate that is fair compensation. Small publishers only pay $50-100 per finished hour. I would only perform an audiobook at that very low rate if I wanted to build commercial credits.I hope these thoughts are helpful. Best wishes for your continued success!PS. I have just started a discussion board on my Facebook page. Would you be comfortable if I re-posted this Q&A in that venue? Other people could benefit from the discussion and chime in with their own good suggestions.


If you've only booked one job, it's doubtful that you're ready for a voice-over agent to want to represent you.
I guess my answer above is just another case where I tell people what they need to know, not what they want to hear.In order to land a voice-over agent, you have to show that you are a marketable commodity and can offer them something that they don't already have among the people they represent. You should listen to the reels of their talent to determine whether and how you might fit on their roster.Most reputable agents have listings on Voicebank. You can sort the listings by city to find the agents' contact info and hear reels of their talent.You also want to compare the professional sound of your demo against those you hear on-line. Those professionals are your competition for booking jobs. If your demo is homemade, you'll want to invest in any necessary training with a coach before getting a professionally produced demo.Hard work, initiative, and knocking on doors does indeed pay off. I just think you need to knock on some other doors to establish yourself before you approach an agent. You can get work without an agent; agents are just one avenue, not the only avenue, of obtaining work.Check out the advice page on my site and look in the archives of my blog for more in-depth advice and resources on finding and marketing yourself to people who might hire you right where you are. To quote Teddy Roosevelt: do what you can, where you are, with what you have.
- Far too many organizations are ready to prey on people's dreams by taking their money and giving them unfilled promises in return. Modeling/talent agencies that set up in malls, organizations that hold "open casting calls" or regular searches for new talent, and places that run radio ads are probably some sort of school that makes their money from selling classes and pictures, not from booking talent. A legitimate voiceover agent doesn't need to solicit more talent, and they only charge you when you book a gig through them, usually 10-15% of the gig!
- If the agency doesn't have a voiceover department, I doubt they could really help you.
- You probably don't want to sign an exclusive agreement with one agent. Many voice actors have numerous agents located across the country and in other parts of the world. To reduce potential conflicts of interest among your agents and clients, it's best if you only have one agent per city or geographic region. Also, the relationship gets tricky when you receive the same copy from multiple agents. In those cases, I send the audition to whomever sent it to me first.
- If you are active with your marketing, be sure any prospective agents are not threatened by your efforts. One agent asked to represent me because she loved my clever pieces of direct mail and then dropped me a year later (after rarely sending me an audition), telling me that she felt my marketing competed with her. I have booked most of my work as a result of my own marketing, so I would not sign with another agent who discourages it.
- For thoughts from an agent, you will want to read the helpful article that Voices.com ran just a few days ago titled How to Get An Agent Dos and Don'ts.

- is entirely participant-driven
- fosters cooperation and camaraderie rather than competition as egos are left at home
- doesn't have sales booths in the back -- or in any part -- of the meeting rooms
- gives participants unparalleled access to go "behind the curtains" to learn success strategies from other professional voice talent and industry leaders

- 3 sessions with the charming and extremely knowledgeable David Goldberg from Edge Studio in which he discussed and demonstrated why the vast majority of demos are rejected along with other marketing Q&As
- Numerous methods to attract repeat clients from the creative and clever Mercedes Rose
- Inspiration to "invite the avalanche" from the highly esteemed yet incredibly humble Bob Souer
- Positive energy and synergy generated in the session that I led, "The Power of Your Words Away From the Mic".


- Only a limited number of products remain at this price. It will either sell out FOREVER or be available for a much higher price later.
- Only a certain number of seats are available for this event.
- We only accept a certain number or type of people into this program.
In this Information Age, continue to sign up for free webinars and reports. You never know where that next sparkling idea for building your voiceover business will appear! Just be aware that free webinars and reports usually come with a hidden agenda to sell you something. By considering the points outlined in this article, you can make an objective and informed buying decision.A) Don't make any decision for at least a 3-day cooling off period. Get away from the emotion of the sales pitch to think logically and clearly about the offer and its usefulness in your life.B) Do some simple math. Figure out how much money you have available for this program or service. Look at the offer and assign some sort of monetary value to each part of it: materials, time with the expert, and other resources provided. Does it require additional costs, such as travel? How does the sum of the parts compare to the price as a whole?C) Do some research for similar products and services. If it's something targeted only to voice talent, ask your colleagues on your favorite voiceover chat board whether they have experience with the provider or can recommend other options. Do a Google search for info about the expert and their products. Subscribe to their blog; you'll get a good feel for how they present information.
We decided to install some recessed lighting in Drew's man cave. Drew called his friend Tommy Dunaway, an electrician who owns a business named Tommy's Lighting and Electric. Tommy came out to discuss options and give us an estimate. When he came back to install the lights, he exceeded our expectations because:
1) He arrived exactly on time, which is a rarity for service provider at one's home. Punctuality is key in voiceover as well. When I started my voiceover business, I assumed that all voiceover talent were punctual. Over the years, I've been surprised to read about people who didn't show up or were late to sessions, didn't return phone calls, etc.2) He suggested features we hadn't considered, like a dimmer for the recessed lights and a remote control for the ceiling fan. I do the same thing with my clients. For instance, if I was hired to narrate a marketing video for a trade show, I'll also let the client know that they may want to use the same voice on their phone system, e-learning modules, and web site to enhance and solidify their brand. It may seem like a self-serving piece of advice, but it's really about helping my clients achieve consistency in all of their communications.3) He finished the job in LESS time than he estimated, so our bill was less than expected. He told me he always builds in enough time in the estimate to troubleshoot any problems -- a tactic that voice talent would do well to emulate.4) He cleaned up after the job was finished. (Remember this point because I'm coming back to it in the next story!)

- If they have given you a file naming convention, use it.
- If not, be very descriptive with your file names so that the purpose or script for each file is immediately evident.
- If you have to revise a file, add a revision number to the file name so that you don't inadvertently write over an existing file. Sometimes, the client may decide the original file was best after all or wants to make some other change to it.
- Compress multiple files into a zip file so that the client only has to download one file.

- On 3 of the 4 visits, we were given an arrival window of a 30-minute time period, yet the techs still showed up late without even a courtesy call.
- Today, the tech backed into the driveway up to the garage threshold and left his truck running while he worked, which filled my garage with the lovely smells of gas fumes and truck exhaust on a day that promises to be quite hot.
The easiest and most gratifying voiceover job for me is one with a repeat client. I look at the last session for that client and copy the same Pro Tools settings to the new session. I know the type of file transmission that the client prefers. I communicate about the turn-around time at the project outset and then work to beat the deadline. The client has no concerns about the quality of my recordings or my speed and efficiency in completing the job for them because I proved myself to them the first time and pride myself on maintaining a consistent high level of service.
You can count on me. You can believe in me. If I say I'll do something, I'll do it. Put it in the bank. Bet the farm on it. It doesn't matter whether or not I'm in a good mood, have a headache, forgot to pick up my clothes from the cleaners, had a fight with my daughter, lost my keys, or didn't sleep last night. If I said I'll do it, then I'll do it.
What's more, I'll do it every time.
If you can say all of that, and back it up, that's more than showing off. That's delivering the goods. That's the gold standard. If you consistently do what you say you'll do over a long period of time, the world will beat a path to your door. Nothing demonstrates the essence of showing off, in the most positive sense of the phrase, than rock solid consistency. There's an old saying that goes, "Amateurs work until they get it right. Professionals work until they can't get it wrong."
We love people who do what they say they will do. Consistency is the foundation of success and the great business builder. Consistency is the definition of integrity.
I told the tech on-site today that Premier Garage is not making it easy for us to want to refer them due to their inconsistent, unreliable, and sloppy approach on this job. Hopefully, you can learn from their many mistakes and make it easy for your clients to want to refer you! If you have other tips about gaining referrals, please leave a comment on the blog!


My problem with the trees is unresolved, but I wanted to tell you this story today so you'll keep these 4 tips in mind as you solve problems for your voiceover clients.
The tree company crew chief had a second chance to show Drew the web page before they ever made the first cut. He also could have checked in with Drew periodically as the work progressed to ensure that they trimmed the trees to match our vision.
This one seems like a no-brainer, but as evidenced by my conversation with the tree service owner, some people just don't get it!
Edited 9/12/10 to include name and link of tree service in response to questions about it
Then, after you have developed some skills and are ready to market yourself, you can set up a home recording system. Pat Fraley outlines an economical setup in his The Gypsy's Guide to Professional Home Recording Workbook and Companion CD. You may also want to read Harlan Hogan and Jeffrey Fisher's excellent book The Voice Actor's Guide to Home Recording.
A voice-over actor must market herself and perform auditions continuously in order to get attention and jobs from others. To gain experience, you can:
- Sign up with an on-line casting service (called a pay-to-play, or P2P, site within the industry) site like Voice123.com or Voices.com (This article contains more information about these sites.)
- Perform voiceover for presentations (e-learning, marketing, etc.) on your day job for no additional pay
- Volunteer to read for the blind
- Contact production companies and radio stations
- Network with professional associations
No one can tell you the exact path you must follow, but just know that the dictionary is the only place where SUCCESS comes before WORK! :)
- practice
- mentors
- the need to be giving
- a passion for reading
- information marketers
- creating your own recordings
Also updated/removed links and significantly reformatted and re-arranged info to provide greater clarity and structure.
-- Elizabeth
- What are your values? Values are different than goals. For instance, if you value security as highly as I do, you'll probably want to have a day job with healthcare benefits and a 401K plan at least until your voiceover income consistently exceeds that of the day job and you're able to insure yourself and plan your retirement.
- What is your passion? If you don't know, what activities make you happy? When you were a child, what did you want to be when you grew up? (If you want to see some great books that will help you find your passion, check out this page on my web site.)
- What about voiceover work is appealing to you? Do you think it's an easy and glamorous way to make money? Do you love to read? Do you love to learn things? Is technology your friend? Do you have a desire to help people? Do you work well in isolation? Do you work well on multiple projects at one time and under multiple deadlines? Do you have an inner calling to do a certain kind of voiceover work? Have you ever actually recorded your voice and listened to it?
The Apple iPad has solved the problem for me. I use the Wi-Fi on it to connect to my wireless LAN in my house. I've been able to read scripts from agents' and clients' web sites, as well as long e-learning Word files sent in e-mail.

I typed my original response to Paul on my iPad, which reminded me of another advantage to it. I was recording a job, and the client sent me some changes in e-mail. I was able to read the e-mail and record the changes without leaving the booth.
My husband is my director, and he also has an iPad. He can keep the script in front of him while maintaining full-screen view and control of Pro Tools on the iMac. When Drew isn't available to help me, I use a Frontier Design Tranzport to control Pro Tools from within the booth, so that's another reason the iPad is a good solution for me.
The only downside I have discovered is that I can't mark the text while recording, like when I want to take notes on direction. I could mark text in Word on my computer before recording. The method is not perfect, but it's superior to printing.
I saw a note on the Yahoo Voiceovers list that someone did an audition with an app called PureAudio ($2.99 in the Apps Store) and thought it came out well. When I originally posted about it, I saw only a handful of reviews were available for that app, and most were reporting various problems. Since the iPad is in its infancy, I know that more and better apps will be available over time.




- How do I get an agent? (I wrote a little about agents on my advice page for my site.)
- Should I join one of the voiceover casting -- commonly referred to as pay-to-play (P2P) -- sites, and if so, which one is better? (If you're interested, my answer to that question is here.)
- Who actually wins all these auditions? (You do have more on your marketing plan than waiting for auditions, don't you? If you need help in creating a marketing plan, check out this post. Also, this post contains 25+ marketing and publicity ideas to attract clients to you. You'll find other marketing articles in the archives.)

- Don't take your critics' words to heart; what do they know, anyway?
- Forget about pleasing everybody; concentrate on playing to the people who like what you do.
- Do what you love (in my case, voice-over) not for the money but because you can't NOT do it. Barry has said: "You shouldn't do it for the applause, the money or the ego satisfaction because it doesn't work. You've got to do it because you've got to do it."
- Your job is just what you do, but it doesn't change who you are.
- You can give in, you can give out, but you don't give up.
- The better produced demo you make, the better chance you have.

- When doing an audition, I scribble the "Moment before" on the script so that I can get back to the same frame of mind if I'm selected for the job.
- I note the method of file transmission that a client prefers. Some people want to receive files in e-mail, while others prefer services like YouSendIt.com and Dropbox.com.
- If I use music from my royalty-free library, I list the disc and cut that I selected. For podcasts, I also include the cues and timing in the music to maintain consistent intro and outro segments.





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